Michael Crick has criticised the latest trans ban made by the Conservative Party after it was announced that plans to stop trans women entering female wards will be implemented.
Speaking to Jacob Rees-Mogg on his GB News show State of the Nation, Crick was joined by Conservative MP Miriam Cates who also reacted to the news, which was announced at the Conservative Party Conference in Manchester by Health Secretary Steve Barclay.
The Health Secretary announced in his speech yesterday that trans women patients will be banned from female hospital wards, in a bid to tackle the 'woke' agenda infiltrating the NHS.
Barclay said it is vital that "women's voices are heard in the NHS and the privacy, dignity and safety of all patients are protected".
Michael Crick criticised the decision made by Barclay to ban trans women from female wards
When asked for his opinion on the ban by Jacob Rees-Mogg, Crick said: "Steve Barclay is going too far here and it's not clear to me whether he's definitely doing this. I mean, he said in that clip there he was going to do it after a consultation, but what's the point of the consultation if he's definitely going to do it?
"But I think that you'd have to ask a number of questions here. I mean, have there actually been many incidents where there have been, say, sexual assaults on women by trans women in hospitals? I mean, we know about them in prisons, but in prisons, they tend to be full of people who are either criminals or dishonest."
Crick continued: "Whereas in hospitals these are people who are ill, and the presumption must be that they are honest, decent people going into hospitals. And I think that the distress that is likely to be caused quite apart from the inconvenience of the health service.
"I mean where are they going to treat trans women otherwise, they're going to put them in private wards, single cubicle wards? I think this is going too far and I think it's basically a dog whistle policy to rustle up votes."
Miriam Cates then agreed with the idea of private wards but addressed the concern of safety for women. Cates said: "I think that the use of private wards would be the right way to go. I don't like to play the gender card here, but I think as a woman, you have an evolved instinct to be wary of men you don't know and that's a survival instinct. It's what's kept us safe for generations.
"I think it's very difficult for men to understand what women feel like when they're in a situation where they're not in control, and where there are men who are physically stronger.
"That’s not to say that every trans woman or even the majority of trans women are there for malicious purposes. But the fear that you feel as a woman, and I certainly know older women, feel knowing that there could be someone who is male on their ward is very, very real.
"And the dignity, the loss of dignity, especially in a very vulnerable position, some people won't be able to get out of bed. The loss of dignity is very significant. And I think that's why hospital wards are so significant."
Steve Barclay announced plans to ban trans women from entering female hospital wards
Crick then questioned Cates on the number of incidents involving women in hospitals, as she said "I don't know numbers, but even one is too many."
Crick argued: "Well, I think one is probably not too many for radical change in policy like this. And I think that it is insulting to trans women that this should happen. And these are people who have often gone through a lot of stress in there, in transitioning like this."
Cates hit back against Crick's comments, stating: "Michael, nobody's saying that they shouldn't have care. Absolutely they should have health care.
"But the important thing here is to protect women's safety and dignity."