Reform MP in furious migration clash with Labour guest as she snaps 'wake up and smell the coffee'

The row comes after Reform UK unveiled deportation targets, with Nigel Farage announcing plans to remove 600,000 migrants within five years
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A fiery clash has erupted on GB News as Reform UK’s Sarah Pochin told Labour’s Barry Gardiner that asylum seekers arriving by boat would face immediate deportation under her party’s plans.
Mr Gardiner hit back, questioning what "crimes these individuals had committed and how leaving the European Convention on Human Rights would actually prevent arrivals."
The row comes after Reform UK unveiled ambitious deportation targets, with party leader Nigel Farage announcing plans to remove 600,000 migrants within five years if elected to power.
Home Secretary Yvette Cooper also unveiled sweeping changes to Britain's asylum framework, announcing restrictions on family reunification for refugees and a complete restructuring of the appeals process.
Sarah Pochin claimed that they should 'be deported'
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Speaking on Britian's News Channel, Reform MP Sarah Pochin said: "Under a Reform Government, they will be deported. Their family will never, ever be invited into this country. And they will never be allowed to ask for asylum here again."
Labour MP Barry Gardiner responded: "One, what is their crime? That’s the first thing you say ‘they’re all criminals’. Yes, but what is their crime? And the second thing is, how does leaving the European Human Rights Convention actually stop people coming here? It doesn’t.
"You said we will stop them on day one because we will leave the convention. But that’s not going to stop people coming here."
Ms Pochin replied: "What stops them coming here is our pull factor. If people believe they can get as far as our shores, and then they can appeal and appeal and appeal using conventions like the ECHR, that means they know they will stay here and never get deported.
"We know, Barry, that there’s a whole industry of left-wing human rights lawyers that depend on the Human Rights Bill all of which we will repeal.
"We will get rid of it so that whole industry of lawyers ceases to exist. And once those pull factors are taken away, people will stop coming to this country."
Mr Gardiner argued back: "Well, you see, you’re talking about the appeals system as the pull factor. Actually, most people who are coming here as asylum seekers once they are accepted as refugees they then go into work."
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Ms Pochin fumed: "They’re working in the illegal economy."
Mr Gardiner hit back: "No, no, they’re working in the local economy at the moment. And this is something else the Home Secretary you heard her this afternoon said they were clamping down on, because they’ve increased the number of raids going on in the trade that is going on with people delivering fast food.
"They are illegal, but they’re the people who have not yet been accepted as genuine asylum seekers.
"Very often they’re people waiting to have their case heard. So, you’re absolutely right the appeal system is a problem. It’s one of the things she said we needed to speed up."
Ms Pochin pressed him: "Barry, what really concerned me today was when Yvette Cooper said your policy will be to speed up processing asylum claims. Your plans are to rush them through.
"What does that do for vetting? What does that do to ensure the security of the people coming into this country?"
Mr Gardiner replied: "You switched the ground there."
Ms Pochin insisted: "These claims shouldn’t even be considered here."
Mr Gardiner shot back: "Do you honestly think that Britain which, under Winston Churchill, formulated the Refugee Convention in 1951 should not be a safe haven for people genuinely seeking asylum?"
Ms Pochin snapped: "Wake up and smell the coffee. The boatloads of young, fighting-age men coming onto our shores onto our beaches they are not refugees from war-torn areas.
"We will take Afghan interpreters. We will take genuine refugees.
"But these boatloads of young males are not genuine refugees. They are economic migrants. They are criminals. They are illegal."
Barry Gardiner closed: "What I’m saying to you is that any civilised country would say: let’s determine whether that is the case and you do that in a court of law."
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