There are ‘two kinds of women’, LGBT campaigner tells Dan Wootton as trans debate continues

There are ‘two kinds of women’, LGBT campaigner tells Dan Wootton as trans debate continues
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Aden-Jay Wood

By Aden-Jay Wood


Published: 03/05/2022

- 22:09

Updated: 03/05/2022

- 22:25

Peter Tatchell believes both biological women and transgender women should both be recognised as women

There are “two different kinds of women”, an LGBT campaigner has told Dan Wootton.

Peter Tatchell, a human rights campaigner, believes that both biological women and transgender women should both be recognised as women.


Speaking on GB News, Mr Tatchell said: “What I do say is that I think the fuss about the definition protects us from the dignity, rights, welfare and safeguarding of all women, including trans women.

“If I was asked that question, I would say there are two different kinds of women.

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Peter Tatchell says there are "two kinds of women"
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“There is a woman defined by her biological sex and there is another different form of woman defined by her gender identity.

He continued: “They are different, they are not the same, but both are equally valid.

“I think we need to find a common ground instead of what divides us, but all women, including trans women, do suffer from misogyny, hate crime, domestic violence and rape.

“Let’s all work together for heaven’s sake to protect all women.”

His comments come after Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon refused to comment on what a woman was.

Speaking ahead of Thursday’s local elections, she argued that to “oversimplify” the debate around trans rights would cause suffering to a vulnerable group.

Asked to define the word woman, she said: “I’m not going to. I’m just not going to get into this debate at a level that’s about simplified and lurid headlines.”

She added: “Trans people are amongst, possibly the most, stigmatised and discriminated-against minorities in our society.

“And every time we oversimplify this debate, trans people actually suffer.

“I think it’s important, they’re such a tiny minority, that we actually take the issues around protecting and enhancing the rights of trans people seriously.”

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